Alexei
Mikhail, good afternoon! As far as I understand, the original antifreeze comes in two types LLC (red) and Super LLC (pink).
1. I would like to know the timing of replacing both fluids.
2. What can be added to pink antifreeze (concentrate or ready-made solution)?
3. Do I understand correctly that red antifreeze is ethylene glycol based, and pink is carboxylate based (judging by the extended replacement period relative to red)
4. Crown car 99, LLC sticker, what antifreeze do you recommend using with a full replacement?
Car Toyota Camry 12.2003. I noticed that there is not enough fluid in the expansion tank. For topping up, I bought Toyota Long Life coolant antifreeze (concentrated red), diluted it and added 200-300 g. Then (unfortunately, what later) I carefully read the manual again, and Toyota Super Long Life Coolant antifreeze is listed there.
Questions: How critical is such mixing for the engine (and will it be necessary to shorten the antifreeze replacement interval), and how often does antifreeze change in Russian conditions (according to the manual, 160 thousand km, in this conference it once slipped that once every 40 thousand) .
Dear Dmitry! Camry contains both super (it's pink) and regular "long live" (it's red) antifreeze. Super is inconvenient because not only cannot you add other antifreezes, but also water. When mixed with other antifreezes, pink antifreeze can curdle with all the ensuing consequences. If this did not happen to you, either red was poured in, it is chemically compatible even with blue, or the additive was very insignificant or the contents of the expansion tank did not mix with the rest of the cooling system. In any case, it is better to replace the antifreeze and not take risks. In addition, you should pay attention to the reason for the decrease in level. Unfortunately, on cars with plastic parts, their destruction often occurs, followed by leakage of antifreeze. For a Camry, this is most often the lower radiator tank. It is replaced under warranty along with antifreeze.
Good luck, Mikhail.
Dear Dmitry! The initiative for such a check belongs to Toyota Motor. There is a suspicion that the spline connection bolt is installed incorrectly, past the flat. Of the cars that we checked, the defect was not confirmed and replacement was not required. This operation can be carried out at any official dealer; at least we take “other people’s” cars.
Good luck, Mikhail.
Toyota recommends only one type of fluid:
coolant concentrate with extended replacement period:
- 08889-80015 1 liter
- 08889-80014 5 liter
- 08889-80017 60 liters
, and whether it’s red or pink depends only on the amount of water you dilute when replacing it. In our lane from rather red because with water 50/50, unless the previous owner diluted it with water to compensate for leaks.
buy 3.5 liters of concentrate, the rest is water. And all will be well. It is necessary to add more than a glass of distillation to the system per year only in case of malfunction. Look for the reason.
This is what the officials found out.
Original Toyota antifreeze comes in red and pink. The red one is called Long Life Coolant, and the pink one is called Super Long Life Coolant. “It’s super inconvenient because not only cannot you add other antifreezes, but also water. When mixed with other antifreezes, pink antifreeze can curdle with all the ensuing consequences.” (c) Pink antifreeze is poured into cars of recent years of production. The replacement period for the pink (super) one is about 160 t.km., I don’t know the replacement period for the red one. And it’s not clear how to distinguish red from pink. I suspect that the pink one is carboxylate based (judging by the timing of replacement), like Liqui Moly. All in all there is some confusion :)
In short, it became somehow boring, there is no need to do anything in the car... Just add anti-freeze... I decided to add antifreeze, otherwise the tank was somehow near the minimum. I bought a red one - Toyota Long Life Coolant. The manual says Toyota Super Long Life Coolant, but I read that later. Having gotten used to the fact that antifreeze can be mixed by color, I didn’t worry too much, but I posted a question on the Nika-Motors forum. Good people said - they do not mix, and categorically - change them urgently. I looked into the tank - and there the antifreeze curdled, sediment fell out and that was it. Result - 2000 rubles for replacing antifreeze. Moreover, I changed it in Kuntsevo - they couldn’t believe it, they forced me to change it by force. Moral - don’t add anything yourself, the dealers don’t know everything, and no one knows what’s in there. At 40 thousand, they change the antifreeze to regular red anyway.
Still, the antifreeze curdled, the post says that at first everything was fine.. Mikhail was right :) Can you describe the color in more detail? Or is it still difficult to determine by color?
You write: “For 40 thousand, they change the antifreeze anyway to regular red.” I don’t understand, the officials change any antifreeze to red, i.e. the one that doesn't fold? Do they do a complete replacement with flushing? By the way, now they sell both...
Thank you. Regards, Alexey.
At first I didn’t notice, and you can’t see much in the tank, but after I received a response from Nika-Motors, I looked at it with passion, i.e. with a flashlight. I was unpleasantly surprised.
The color of pink - I would call it more like purple, as it was in the tuning table of Soviet color TV. It is strikingly different from red, even diluted in half, but they must be placed side by side in a transparent container. In Bitsa and Kuntsevo there was no super, they said that it was only poured at the factory, it was not for sale or for service. I changed the antifreeze in Kuntsevo, they said that on all cars they change the antifreeze on TO-40000 to regular red, Toyota Long Life Coolant. For a long time they couldn’t believe the fact that antifreezes don’t mix; they tried to dissuade him from replacing it. An interesting question (ask yourself, happy owners of new cars) - if the officials add antifreeze during maintenance, does anyone pay attention to which one?
In the Toyota Camry XV40, the engine cooling system (ECS) includes a radiator, fan, heat exchanger, centrifugal pump, thermostat and expansion tank. Failure of one of the system components will most likely lead to engine failure, which can lead to expensive repairs.
Therefore, you should regularly monitor the condition of the SOD and change the antifreeze in a timely manner, and it must be of exceptionally high quality. See the photo for how to replace coolant on a Camry V40.
How much does it cost and what kind of antifreeze to use?
The manufacturer developed a special antifreeze “Toyota Super Long Life Coolant”.
Antifreeze is toxic, so be careful when working with it! In addition, change only when the engine is cool to avoid getting burned!
For a complete replacement, you can also use coolants from other manufacturers: TCL “Long Life Coolant – 50°C”, product code LLC01236, a four-liter canister will cost 820 rubles. Bottle with a volume of 1 liter, catalog number LLC33145, price – 330 rubles. Patron “Antifreeze”, with the article number AFRED1PATRON. The price of a 1-liter canister, product code AFRED1PATRON, will be 240 rubles, and a five-liter canister with product code AFRED5PATRON will be 560 rubles.
Also, during the process of replacing antifreeze, you may need to replace the radiator cap. The original cover from Toyota, product code 1640131520 costs 780 rubles. A number of replacements “to match the original” are available: Masuma MOX202 – 170 rubles, Gates RC134 – 460 rubles, Metalcaucho 03605 – 150 rubles.
Prices are indicated for autumn 2017 for Moscow and the region.
How to change antifreeze on a Toyota Camry XV40 with your own hands
According to, the first coolant replacement occurs at 160,000 km, and then the interval is reduced to 80,000.
Replacement instructions:
- Place the car on a flat surface.
- Unscrew the motor protection.
- Turning counterclockwise, unscrew the radiator cap.
- We unscrew the plug in the expansion tank, but do not unhook the steam outlet hose.
- We place a container under the faucet of the hole for draining the SOD radiator (it is located in the lower radiator tank). Turn the drain valve plug 2-3 turns and drain the liquid.
- We place the drain container under the coolant drain tap located on the left side of the engine block and unscrew the drain plug 2-3 turns and drain the coolant.
- Hand tighten the plugs of both valves to drain.
- Using water, rinse the SOD. To do this, slowly pour water to the level of the steam pipe.
- We start the engine and let it run until the engine fan turns on.
- We turn off the engine and drain the fluid again.
- We rinse the SOD until clean water begins to flow.
- Fill new coolant into the radiator.
- We start the engine and warm it up to operating temperature. As air leaves the SOD, add coolant to the radiator.
- Before removing air from the system, the fan must turn off 3-4 times.
- Then, tighten the radiator cap and add antifreeze to the expansion tank to the “F” mark. We turn off the engine and let it cool.
- We measure the antifreeze in the tank and top it up if necessary.
During this time the engine is running, the ODS is under pressure; when starting the engine, make sure that the plugs are tightly closed, otherwise coolant may leak from under a poorly closed plug.
What will you need for replacement?
Will come in handy:
- funnel;
- clean rags;
- gloves;
- container for draining the coolant (at least 7 liters);
- new coolant and radiator cap.
To replace the coolant on a Toyota Camry XV40, turn off the running engine and let it cool. Place the car on a flat horizontal surface and remove the lower engine mudguards.
In order to relieve pressure in the cooling system, slowly turn the cap of the expansion tank counterclockwise.
Open the expansion tank cap without disconnecting the steam hose from it. If necessary, remove the expansion tank and wash it.
We go down, place a container under the drain valve of the radiator of the cooling system, located in the lower radiator tank, unscrew the drain valve plug 2-3 turns, put a rubber hose on the drain spout, and drain the liquid.
Flush the cooling system, fill the system with water through the radiator filler neck to the level of the steam pipe.
During transition periods that threaten temperature changes, car owners need to check the condition of the cooling system. With the way the replacement is done antifreeze in Toyota Camry 2.4 and others, any car enthusiast can figure it out, regardless of experience and knowledge of the design and operation of the car.
If all components of the machine are working properly, fuel consumption is within acceptable limits, then it is enough to conduct a visual inspection of the tank with the antifreeze level and the radiator located in the engine compartment. When inspecting them, attention should be paid to the main quality indicators:
To eliminate problems with the cooling system, you need to pay attention to the following facts:
Benefits of a properly functioning cooling system
It is recommended to pay attention to the condition of the cooling system due to the fact that replacing antifreeze is the simplest solution to all problems. At the same time, if maintenance is untimely or a breakdown is detected, the results of operating a faulty vehicle can be much worse. Even the most reliable engines become unusable when overheated. It’s much easier to ensure that at every recommended interval of 80 or 40 thousand km, replacing antifreeze on your toyota camry. The manufacturer recommends that the first coolant change be carried out after 160,000 km, and subsequent changes every 80,000 when using Super Long Life Coolant type antifreeze. This recommendation is associated with the natural wear and tear of the materials that make up the parts and structures of the cooling system.
In addition to the listed factors, antifreeze, materials and parts are significantly affected by temperature changes. For the cooling system, such fluctuations are the most significant and relevant. Although designers are trying to create products with the highest strength thresholds to withstand this kind of influence. However, no material can work indefinitely under such conditions. Therefore, timely replacement of antifreeze and rubber products is the optimal way to extend the performance of the entire mechanism as a whole. From an economic point of view, this method of maintaining a vehicle in good condition is considered the most profitable and expedient.
Use your free time to benefit your cooling system
Conduct replacing antifreeze on Toyota v 40 will not be difficult for anyone. Even if the owner does not trust his car to the service center specialists, he can successfully cope with replacing antifreeze on his Toyota himself. To do this, you will need an hour of time to spare, flushing the cooling system and the antifreeze itself. It can be sold in the form of a concentrate and in a ready-made state. Replacing antifreeze Camry 40 It’s easy to do with your own hands, as you can see from the video, it’s actually simple and not complicated:
- Drive the car onto a pit or lift;
- Unscrew all plugs and plugs from the cooling system;
- Drain the waste, while looking at the composition of the liquid. It should not contain heavy impurities. If metal shavings or large cloudy sediment occurs, then it is necessary to check the composition of the wash. Based on the results obtained, contact specialists who can determine the location of the problem and how to eliminate the problem;
- After putting all the equipment and the cooling jacket in order, you can fill in the new recommended antifreeze.
Timely replacing antifreeze in Toyota Camry 2.4 and others is a truly profitable operation that allows you to extend the life of all the main components of the car, while maintaining the basic operational and consumer qualities of the car.
Video on replacing antifreeze on Camry 40
The liquid that removes excess heat from a running engine, protecting it from critical overheating, is called antifreeze. It prevents freezing of the cooling system in winter when the car is idle. When using vehicles, the beneficial properties of antifreeze gradually disappear, which forces its periodic replacement.
Cooler properties
During operation, the coolant temperature reaches and sometimes exceeds 100 degrees, and during idle time it is compared with the ambient temperature. The effective functionality of the Toyota Camry cooling system, as well as the durability of the V50 power unit, depend directly on the quality of the antifreeze, which must meet the following requirements:
- mobility;
- high thermal conductivity and heat capacity;
- low crystallization and expansion temperature coefficient;
- the substance must have anti-corrosion properties and not corrode rubber elements.
Classification of coolers
There are three types of cooling fluids:
- basic;
- no silicates;
- without nitrates.
Based on the basis of the substance, they are divided into propylene glycol and ethylene glycol. Each group has an individual set of additives and composition. Mixing different coolants is almost always prohibited. This is especially true for the silicate-free group, since the resulting solution can coagulate in the cooling system, clogging it. This will result in the need for flushing.
Requirements are imposed on antifreezes taking into account the individual characteristics of the cooling system. For the effective functionality of the Camry 2.4 engine, the manufacturer recommends the use of silicate-free solutions based on propylene glycol containing a corrosion inhibitor.
Such requirements are put forward taking into account the functions of the cooling system: more viscous compositions are ideal in the process of forced injection of antifreeze. Taking into account such requirements, the most optimal for the Camry V50 would be to use the following compositions:
- SuperLongLifeCoolant (S LLC) – pink;
- LongLifeCoolant (LLC) – red.
To avoid premature engine failure from overheating, do not use antifreeze to cool it. This won't lead to anything good.
When is a cooler replacement required?
The frequency of scheduled fluid replacement depends on the service life indicated on the packaging. If for any reason the Toyota Camry antifreeze runs out much faster, an early top-up or replacement is carried out.
Signs of unsuitable coolant:
- Formation of a jelly-like mass on the expansion tank.
- With slight frosts, the substance becomes mushy or a precipitate forms.
- The cooler fan operates more often than usual.
- Fluid contamination is determined visually.
- Forced need to top up the system with water.
Self-replacement
Replacing antifreeze on a Toyota Camry V40 is not particularly difficult. First of all, you need to install a tray under the engine and radiator; the waste mixture will drain into it. The drain cap on the radiator is opened and the plug is twisted. Then you need to unscrew the drain plugs located on the radiator and cylinder block to allow the contents to drain completely. After this, all the plugs are tightened, and the antifreeze used is poured in as much as required up to the maximum mark. Typically, a Camry V50 can use about 4.5–5 liters. This is considered normal for this model.
Antifreeze has an important function; it cools the entire engine system. Antifreeze is a cooling liquid that consists of water and a coolant (alcohol, ethylene glycol, glycerin, etc.). The coolant in a car must be changed periodically. If you ignore replacement, this can lead to engine overheating, breakdown and repair.
Timing for changing antifreeze in Toyota
Signs of replacing antifreeze in Toyota: frequent engine overheating, increased oil temperature in the engine. These are signals to check the liquid level in the cooling system, its composition, sediment, color. If the car begins to consume a lot of fuel, then this may also be a sign of problems with the refrigerant.
In the Toyota Camry V40 and Toyota Camry V50 there are no special differences in replacing the coolant. The volume of antifreeze in the Toyota Camry tank will depend on the engine size and year of production of the car. The smaller the engine size, the smaller the coolant volume. And the older the car, the greater the amount of antifreeze. Most often, about 6 -7 liters of liquid are required.
Replacing antifreeze for Toyota Camry V40 and Toyota Camry V50 occurs according to the following principles:
- annually, every 70-100 thousand kilometers;
- you should pay attention to the instructions for the antifreeze itself and its service life;
- the car's instructions should also indicate the timing for replacing the coolant;
- Another factor is the age of the car; the older it is, the more wear and tear the cooling system has, therefore, the fluid must be changed more often. You can also purchase special indicator strips at car dealerships, using which you can easily learn how to determine when to replace the coolant.
Replacing antifreeze in the Toyota Camry V50 must be treated more responsibly, since this car has a weak point - engine overheating.
Instructions for replacing coolant
One of the main points in replacing antifreeze is the choice of the product itself. You shouldn't skimp on this. The cost of high-quality refrigerant is from 1,500 rubles and more per 10 liters. When purchasing you should pay attention to:
- color, it must match the car. Preference is given to red liquids;
- freezing temperature, it should not be higher than (-40 C) - (-60 C);
- country of origin. Of course, it is recommended to buy Japanese products. At the moment it is the highest quality;
- antifreeze class. There are several classes: G11, G12, G13. Their distinguishing feature is the service life of the antifreeze.
You can replace antifreeze on a Toyota Camry at a car dealership or do it yourself. If you decide to change it in the salon, then take care of choosing and purchasing antifreeze yourself to be sure of the quality of the product. If you decide to change the refrigerant yourself, then first read the manufacturer’s instructions and take into account all safety precautions, cool the machine before changing, put on a work uniform and gloves. So, you will need 25 liters of water, 6 liters of antifreeze and a tray. The composition of the refrigerant should also be taken into account. There are ready-made cooling liquids. And there are concentrates. To dilute the concentrate, you must strictly follow the instructions for use on the packaging; most often it is diluted in a ratio of 50x50.
Sequencing:
- Open the cap on the radiator and expansion tank;
- Install the pan under the engine and radiator;
- Unscrew the valves on the radiator and cylinder block, drain the antifreeze from the Toyota tank into the pan;
- Close the valves back;
- Flush the cooling system with water. Pour 5 liters of water into the radiator. Close the radiator and expansion tank caps. Start the car, press the gas pedal and warm up the engine until the fan comes on;
- Turn off the engine and drain the fluid, wait until the engine cools down;
- Repeat the procedure until the poured water becomes clear;
- Pour new fluid into the radiator with the engine cool. Start the car and operate the pedal until all air leaves the system. In Toyota Camry, the air comes out on its own;
- Then pour antifreeze for Toyota Camry into the expansion tank to the special mark;
- Close all covers. Remove the tray.
What to do if air gets into the cooling system?
If, when replacing antifreeze in a Toyota Camry, air gets into the cooling system, you must allow the engine to warm up well so that the radiator fan turns on. You should operate the pedal for about 5 minutes. The air itself will leave through the exhaust lines from the cooling system. In Toyota Camrys, the air leaves on its own and this is a big advantage when replacing coolant.
You can replace antifreeze yourself; you don’t need special tools, but you need to be prepared with information:
- Replacing the refrigerant takes a minimum amount of time;
- It is recommended to replace only with high-quality red liquids, and not to skimp on the product;
- Allows you to save on maintenance at the car dealership.
